Sex in Anime is Complicated – This Week in Anime
Nick and Lucas use last week’s Chainsaw Man manga chapter as a springboard to discuss sex and sexuality in manga, from messy to raunchy to endearing depictions.
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Spoiler Warning for discussion of the series ahead.
Chainsaw Man, Fairy Tail, The Stranger by the Shore, High School DxD, Bikini Warriors, The 100 Girlfriends Who Really, Really, Really, Really, Really Love You, and Yamada’s First Time: B-Gata H-Kei are currently streaming on Crunchyroll, while O Maidens in Your Savage Season, Scum’s Wish, and Mysterious Girlfriend X are streaming on HIDIVE.
Hey Nick, good to be on a TWIA with you again! Before we start, corporate asked us to find the difference between these two images. Apparently, it’s important, and only we can do it.
Y’know, I forgot to ask editorial what the limit for bare nipples was before we did this one, but I guess it doesn’t matter now. Rev up that age gate, boss!
Also, to answer your question, obviously, the person on the left is a southpaw.
Editor’s note: I regret everything.
And you’re correct, Nick! They also would have accepted one being a genuine assault indicative of destructive tendencies, while the other is the product of the complicated and nuanced human sexuality that makes Chainsaw Man my favorite manga running right now.
Damn! We already have as many rimshots in this chat as we do—no, that joke’s too easy, and I’m not gonna go blue this early in the column.
Anyway, without spoiling too much, suffice it to say the latest chapter of Chainsaw Man brought on a very intense reaction from anyone who read it across a broad spectrum. Some folks were grossed out. Others were genuinely, morally offended enough to swear off the series entirely. I laughed so hard I nearly fell out of my chair. It was a lot.
From my end, I was hooting and hollering as this is CSM at its best! People are complicated, messy, and human in ways that are simultaneously taboo and deeply relatable.
Also, for folks who are now Asa/Yoru haters, maybe don’t throw them under the bus when this is as emotionally fraught as most sex acts between young people, or label this “the most devastating event in the series.” We’ve been way lower, even if those instances were less anatomical.
It’s undoubtedly Fujimoto in his wheelhouse. It’s intentionally crude, deeply awkward, yet the exact thing you’d expect from all involved characters. While I disagree with the most distraught readers, I get why they were so upset. The scene is meant to be shocking! Not in a shock-jock “see what we can get away with” way, but in that it presents a seriously fraught, uncomfortable moment with questionable (at best) consent. It treats it with a brutally straightforward awkwardness. It’s highly sexually charged yet totally unsexy, which is a combo that most mass media would never touch.
One of my favorite elements of anime and manga is how they’re more able and willing to explore human sexuality, and I’m elated every time it shows up in a work outside of needless, and usually misogynistic, fanservice.
Part of what makes that scene hit is that it’s so explicit without being sexy. There are plenty of ecchi anime out there that have more graphic, on-screen sexual content, but it’s usually in service of titillation. A lot of casual audience members are used to sex existing purely as innuendo or else as purposeful spank bank fodder. I imagine that’s why I saw some folks calling Fujimoto a “gooner” for this.
Oh, come on now, gang. There wasn’t nearly enough edging in that sesh for it to count as gooning, and Fujimoto clearly respects himself and his characters too much for any of them to be gooners.
I mean, Denji certainly has the potential to goon. The inclination, even! I do find the whole thing a little funny, though. Fujimoto’s been pretty upfront about when he’s putting stuff into his work for personal appeal, and it has a lot more to do with domineering women and very little to do with the saddest low-five imaginable.
But I love that Ch 167 of Chainsaw Man is provocative enough to inspire takes like that from people who are likely younger and inexperienced in emotional or physical intimacy. People in that part of their lives can have a pretty sanitized idea of what sex acts should look and feel like when the reality is often much more complicated and messy. I think it’s important for people to see something closer to the reality of a thing that most societies have put on a pedestal.
Or, maybe I like seeing my comfort character struggle with a lot of the same life lessons that I had to go through as a teenager/young adult.
It’s romantic and intimate but funny and awkward in how it honestly depicts the main couple’s first time. It’s two people fumbling around each other’s bodies and trying to figure out what feels right, while also including things like lube and enemas that are pretty common with the kind of sex they’re having.
Also, at the risk of getting on a soap box and promoting my work, a big takeaway I had from the Sex Work, Kink, Consent, and Anime article I penned for ANN a while back was how people shouldn’t let pornography inform their opinions about sex. And how people, especially, shouldn’t let ecchi or hentai inform their opinions about sex.
Wait, Nick, are you saying that it’s a double standard that misogynists want women not to have sex, but also be hypersexual to them exclusively???
Which I don’t say as an attack on anybody who enjoys them but as an observation of how the material doesn’t reflect a very authentic view of sex in general.
I’ll take things one step further, though. I think a lot of series with that wish-fulfillment attitude towards sex is kind of a waste of the viewer and production team’s time. I don’t know if people know this, but PORN EXISTS! Not everything has to be titillating. If a series includes sexual material without feeling genuine to the story, honest to the creators’ lived experiences, or novel in the current media landscape, I don’t think there’s much value in that media.
On that note, if you’re so tired of a presumed young male perspective, have I got a show for you:
But callouts are way less productive than spotlights, and I’d LOVE to talk about anime and manga that handle sex and sexuality super well instead!
Ooooooh~ A mostly woman-led cast where teenagers have an appropriate for teenagers level of interest and awkwardness about sex and there’s humor to undercut the relatable cringe? Sign me up!
Focusing on sexuality more than sex for a second, I adored the 100 Girlfriends anime from last year! While I’m desperate for a decent polyamorous rep in anime (or any media), the interiority and affection granted to each character were super refreshing and endearing.
Plus, it helps that the show is genuinely hilarious and that Rentaro really, really, REALLY loves women.
It’s not exactly mature, but by god, it’s variety!
100 GFs is maximizing enthusiasm for sexuality and all the weird/fun kinks it entails, and that makes it a delight to me personally.
Scum’s Wish is truly one of the most fraught situationships in all of anime!
It’s a rough sit at times, but I love how it explores the pitfalls so many people make when they start exploring their sexuality. The characters invest so much of their self-esteem in sexual gratification or try to transmute sexual release into emotional intimacy in ways that screw it up even more. It’s like watching a car crash in slow motion.
Man, I know so many people who started or stayed in toxic relationships because they thought it was better than being alone. Watching Scum’s Wish probably wouldn’t have inspired them to make different decisions, but I’ve got to give it to this anime for really digging into just about every facet of this kind of dynamic.
Oh god, even in 2010 (2004, if we’re counting the manga), people were picking up on sensationalized depictions of sex, warping young people’s perspective on the act, and we as a society have done so little to correct course since then! While reality bums me out, Yamada does a great job taking the piss out of those impossibly sexual situations.
The point is there are a lot of different angles to tackle the topic from. It can be salacious, awkward, depressing, thrilling, touching, and a million other things. But we’ll never get to have those conversations if we treat every instance of sexually charged storytelling on the same level as the Sexposition scenes from Game of Thrones. So maybe we can all take a deep breath, step back, and talk about this like adults?
If everyone spent three and a half hours discussing the nuances of sexuality and its depiction in art while also dropping low-hanging jokes about HJs, the world would be a better place!
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